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Answers to questions and arguments frequently heard or read regarding the Magpie River Hydroelectric Development Project.

Certain responses to the arguments presented hereunder can be found in the documents on the BAPE Internet website or in the public hearing transcriptions
Where applicable, the references have been provided at the end of the response.

 

 

  • Q1 – Prior to the construction of the current dam, the salmon would swim up to the third fall of the river, this being more than 6 km upstream from the dam.

    A1 – According to the former Inuit members of the Mingan community represented by Mr. Mitchel, the salmon have never swum upstream from the site of the first fall where the current dam is located, even prior to its construction. Ref. Transcript BAPE DT2, pages 9 and 10.


  • Q2 – Parks Canada has undertaken a Federal park project at the basin of the Magpie River.

    A2 – According to Mr. Laurent Tremblay, Executive Director for Parks Canada in Quebec, there are no plans for a Federal park project on the Magpie River. Ref. Transcript BAPE DT2, page 59.


  • Q3 – The dam project will destroy the river’s appeal for amateur canoe-kayaking and rafting enthusiasts.

    A3 – The project is situated at the site of the current dam. Even if the projected dam is more elevated and will raise the water level upstream, it would touch only 2 km of the river which extends over more than 280 km in length. The raising of the water level will not prevent sport enthusiasts from enjoying their sport but rather will improve the access to the area, as noted by a Government representative during the BAPE hearings, in particular with the construction of an access ramp along with various paths. Ref. Transport Canada Document DQ2.1


  • Q4 – The second fall, among the river’s most beautiful, will disappear.

    A4 – According to the Mayor of Rivière St-Jean (Magpie), rafting has always ended upstream from the third fall; therefore, the second fall is not used. However, the second fall would only be partially submerged and could be used in the future since it will be possible to exit near the dam due to an access ramp constructed for this purpose. Ref. Transcript BAPE DT1, pages 28 and 29.


  • Q5 – Mr. Eric Hertz of Earth River contends that up to 10,000 tourists could come each year to navigate down the rapids which would in turn stimulate the local economy.

    A5 – According to the Earth River Internet website, during the last 15 years less than 300 people have descended the river, that is to say less than 20 people per year. In its 2004 program, Earth River foresees a single descent for 12 people in August and a single descent for approximately a dozen people in 2005.

    Again according to Earth River’s website, it costs US $1,900 from Sept-Îles for a descent of one week wherein one must add between CDN $800 to CDN $1,000 to make the voyage from Montreal or New York to Sept-Îles. The expedition would cost a total of between CDN $3,300 to CDN $3,500 per person. Consequently, the expedition expenses limit the client potential for this type of activity.

    Moreover, Mr. Hertz himself acknowledged that these expeditions had no effect on the local economy. Ref. Transcript BAPE DT6, page 78.

    The distance of the site must also be considered in relation to the large centres and, above all, to the hydroelectric and meteorological conditions which will always limit the duration of the expedition season. The river is situated 1,200 km North-East of Montreal. There are no access roads. The only two access routes are by train, which drops off the sporting participants at 278 km from the Eric River (3 weeks of descent on the river), or by hydroplane. Even Earth River contends that it is almost impossible to descend the river other than during the month of August. In fact from December to the end of May, the ice covers the largest part of the course and the water temperatures near zero degrees; in June and July there is too much water flow and is therefore very dangerous; from September to November the temperatures drop too low.

    Furthermore, the participants are brought to the river by a hydroplane, only 4 passengers and their necessary material at a time. This represents 2,500 return flights to drop off passengers and as many times to pick them up, this being 5,000 flights for 30 days of activity. This represents more than 160 flights per day which is comparable to the number of plane movements in one month at Dorval Airport!

    It therefore seems unthinkable that the participation in such expeditions could significantly surpass the actual number of participants, that is to say a maximum of 20 people per year. We can easily ask ourselves if it is realistic to create a permanent tourist industry having only one month of activities per year?


  • Q6 – The Magpie project is unjustified on an energy level. Ref. River Foundation Brief.

    A6 – The current estimates from Hydro-Quebec state an increase in the demand for energy in 2012 superior to today’s demands by 20,3 TWh (millions of KWh). That is to say that in 8 years this demand will be filled in part by energy efficiency methods wherein the maximum potential will be 8TWh and the remaining part will be filled by projects currently in development, namely the Magpie project. This project will cost less than the majority of Hydro-Quebec’s projects and should therefore be favoured. Also, the Magpie project has been included in Hydro-Quebec’s strategic plan.


  • Q7 – The project will flood a large area.

    A7 – The flooding will be an area of 10 ha (0.1 km2 compared to 7,600 km2 from the basin of the river).


  • Q8 – Hydro-Quebec is developing large projects and does not need to involve itself with small projects such as Magpie. Ref. SCFP Hydro-Quebec Union Brief.

    A8 – Hydro-Quebec also has projects in development comparable to the size of the Magpie project, for example:

    • Mercier development on the Baskatong Dam of 50.1 MW;
    • Allard Falls development of 70 MW;
    • Rapides-des-Coeurs development of 80 MW.

    The construction of these three projects is anticipated in the next few years. Hydro-Quebec recently restored the Sept-Chute development of 18 MW near Quebec as well as the Bell Falls of 10 MW on the Red River.


  • Q9 – It is not profitable for Hydro-Quebec to entrust these projects to a private company.

    A9 – The Magpie project was one of three projects granted following a call for tenders organized by the MRN and Hydro-Quebec in 2002. The average price of energy proposed by these three projects was 4.3 c/kWh. If we add the cost of transport of 1.0 c/kWh, the total cost would be 5.3 c/kWh. This cost is comparable to the projects currently undertaken by Hydro-Quebec, such as:

    Toulnoustouc 3.56 c/kWh Hydro
    Mercier 4.57 c/kWh Hydro
    Eastmain-1 6.71 c/kWh Hydro
    Péribonka 5.49 c/kWh Hydro
    Rapides-des-Coeurs 7.52 c/kWh Hydro
    Complexe Romaine 8.1 c/kWh Hydro
    Suroît 6.6 c/kWh Thermal
    1000MW wind power 10 c/kWh Wind
    Short-term offer 7.8 c/kWh Various
    Bi-energy 7.9 c/kWh Various

    References:
    Request R-3526-2004 Régie de l’énergie; HQP-3, Document 1
    Transcript BAPE DT6, page 84
    Hydro-Quebec Press Release of June 18, 2004


  • Q10 – The project’s promoter coerced the MRC by offering it financial participation in the project as well as granting fees.

    A-10 – The MRN asked the MRCs where the projects had been selected to give their accord so that a site may be proposed to promoters. The MRC of Minganie gave its accord but made a few requests of its own, namely: financial participation in the project, the payment of annual fees as well as the payment from a development fund. These requests were entered into by resolution by the MRC in 2002. Hydroméga presented its tender in order to satisfy these requests, and the tender was accepted by the MRN and Hydro-Quebec.

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